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Over the years, I have followed ChaCha Hudson’s work online, captivated by her innovative approach to patternmaking and her commitment to inclusivity in fashion. I first met her at an academic, professional conference for an organization we both belonged to, and from that moment, I knew she was someone whose work would continue to inspire me. It was a privilege to have her as a guest on the iNNOVATION Insights podcast, where we explored her journey, research, and entrepreneurial spirit.
urney Sparked by Curiosity
During our conversation, ChaCha reflected on the unexpected moment she fell in love with fashion. At twelve, she told her mother she wanted to learn sewing. Without hesitation, her mother enrolled her in a Saturday sewing class. Though she struggled to wake up early, she did not let missed classes deter her. Instead, she became even more motivated to pursue sewing. Throughout high school, she created garments for herself and others, which eventually led her to focus on patternmaking. I found her story particularly fascinating, as it highlighted the power of curiosity and perseverance.
ChaCha’s journey continued as she pursued a Bachelor’s degree in Fashion Design and a Master’s degree in Fashion and Apparel Studies. Now, she was working toward her Ph.D. at Iowa State University, further solidifying her role as a thought leader in fashion education and research.
Championing Inclusive Sizing in Fashion
One of the most compelling parts of our discussion centered on the ongoing challenges of inclusive sizing in the fashion industry. ChaCha described how the industry's approach to plus-size fashion often followed waves—sometimes inclusive, other times regressive. While mainstream fashion brands occasionally showcased plus-size models, true inclusivity remained inconsistent. Surprisingly, she noted that fast fashion brands had demonstrated the most growth in this area, offering more size variety, albeit with issues in fit and construction.

What struck me most was her insight into the future of inclusivity. She expressed optimism about emerging designers fresh out of university, as they seemed eager to challenge industry norms and prioritize inclusive design. I agreed wholeheartedly, recognizing the role of fashion educators in shaping this shift.
Teaching Beyond Traditional Classrooms
As an educator myself, I was intrigued by ChaCha’s perspective on teaching. While she saw herself as a teacher, she did not necessarily envision working within a traditional academic structure. Instead, she aimed to influence education on a larger scale—whether through workshops, professional development for faculty, or innovative programming across multiple institutions.
She shared a particularly eye-opening experience of a student who had graduated with a fashion degree but had only been trained to design for a size six. This student had to return for continuing education because her original coursework had failed to prepare her for designing across various body types. It was a stark reminder of the gaps in fashion education. ChaCha’s vision for a more comprehensive and inclusive curriculum resonated deeply.

The Art of Draping and Patternmaking
ChaCha’s passion for draping and patternmaking was undeniable. She explained the different methods to create garment patterns, from drafting with measurements to manipulating existing pattern blocks. However, draping remained her preferred approach. Watching fabric take shape organically on a dress form was therapeutic and artistic for her.
I loved hearing about how she approached draping like a form of storytelling—where each fold and seam contributed to a larger creative vision. She emphasized the importance of understanding real bodies, not just idealized dress forms. This attention to detail and commitment to authenticity in design set her apart as an innovator.
Writing and Sharing Knowledge
Beyond her work in academia and patternmaking, ChaCha had also made a name for herself as a writer for Threads Magazine. I was fascinated by how she balanced so many different roles—student, teacher, entrepreneur, and writer. She contributed podcasts, articles, and an extensive draping course, all designed to help aspiring designers refine their skills.
She shared her excitement over an upcoming Threads Magazine feature, where she had an eight-page spread on quick wins in sewing for plus-size sewists. It was a significant achievement, and I admired her ability to merge theory with practical application. Through her writing, she ensured that vital knowledge reached a broad audience.
Bridging the Gap Between Academia and Industry
One of the highlights of our conversation was discussing the disconnect between academia and industry. ChaCha had been researching how fashion educators could better prepare students for real-world careers. Her dissertation is focused on Open Educational Resources (OER), which would teach designers how to draft patterns based on individual measurements, making it a valuable tool for those designing plus-size fashion.
She surveyed educators to determine what knowledge gaps existed and planned to interview industry professionals to bridge those gaps. This initiative inspired me because it aligned with my mission at INNOVATION Insights—bringing academia and industry together to foster real change.

An Entrepreneurial Vision for the Future
ChaCha had no shortage of future aspirations. She had been selling patterns for years but wanted to establish a more consistent brand. She envisioned creating a network of universities offering inclusive design programming. She even dreamed of opening a fashion innovation lab dedicated to adaptive apparel, plus-size fashion, and marginalized communities in the industry.
As she shared her ideas, I could see the challenge she faced—deciding where to begin. Like many entrepreneurs, she had many ideas but needed to prioritize. I related deeply to this dilemma, knowing that great ideas often require patience and strategic execution.
Defining Innovation
Toward the end of our conversation, I asked ChaCha how she defined innovation. Her response was simple and profound: “Continuing to ask: What if? Who is not being served?” It was a powerful reminder that true innovation requires continuously questioning the status quo.
Final Thoughts
Reflecting on this conversation, I felt deeply inspired by ChaCha Hudson’s work, her dedication to inclusive fashion, and her entrepreneurial drive. She was reshaping how garments were made and the industry’s approach to education, access, and representation.
I left the discussion feeling energized, knowing that voices like hers were pushing fashion forward. I could not wait to see what she accomplished next, and I was honored to have had the opportunity to highlight her work on the INNOVATION Insights podcast.
Keep innovating!
Eulanda
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